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> Do you agree that that first cycle should be available (based on >memory installed, of course) using UNDO, and that it is not >available? for short loops it would be nice. But imagine you have a long loop and want to multiply it out many times: the memory would be low and you could not do the multiply in the first place and would complain... :-) At several ocasions we had to decide what we want to spend memory for... and we certainly could do it in a more sophisticated way - which turns the machine less transparent... > At this point, this is more of an academic question, because i >think that a short use of overdub before attempting any multiplies >will work for me i hope." (or i can use your suggestion, Mathias >below) exactly Thank you anyway for thinking with us! Matthias -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org