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Re: delay time + Echo Pro ?



Rich,

Thanks. this is helpful, maybe I could contact you off-list if I need more
info
on pedal set-up?

Ian.


At 17:48 11/03/03 , you wrote:
>Ian,
>
> 
>> 1. does the MIDI clock sync work accurately? and is
>> there a facility for
>> setting and saving the bar resolution within each
>> programme? I mean so I have
>> (for example) 3 saved valve delay model programmes
>> each for MIDI clock
>> control,
>> 1 with delays coming back on 1/8th notes, another
>> with 1/4 notes and the third
>> 1/1 notes. I know I can tap tempo times in but I'm
>> interested in automating
>> much of this if possible.
>
>I don't use the MIDI sync, but from what I've gathered
>from other users who do that there is a possibility
>the sync doesn't work well, but that it also depends
>on how it's set up and what unit is providing the midi
>clock.  Frankly, I wouldn't let this issue alone be a
>determining factor in the purchase of an Echo Pro
>because from what I understand most manufacturers have
>difficulty implementing this feature successfully %100
>of the time.
>
>Regarding the bar resolution, yes, you can save the
>resolution per program, and you can even morph between
>resolutions per program with an expression pedal or
>CC.
>
>
>> 2. Do you select the looper as 'another programme'
>> with its own programme
>> number? On the DL4 I have to manually switch it from
>> delay to loop mode and
>> back again and wonder if this can be controlled from
>> a foot controller on the
>> Echo Pro.
>
>
>Yes, it can be done using a foot controller.  I use a
>FCB1010 with mine and have a regular set-up and
>expanded set-up which if you'd like I can detail
>further.  In essence, though, you can start looping at
>any time with a single press of a pedal (no need to
>switch programs first, the looping starts and program
>change occurs with one press).
>
>> 3. I know that there are problems with the looper
>> syncing to MIDI clock. Is
>> this totally unusable/unreliable or does the looper
>> sync up to MIDI clock in
>> some circumstances?
>
>The looper does not sync to any clock.  The delay that
>accompanies the looper does, but not the looper
>itself.
>
>
>> I do aspire to an EDP, but can't afford one at the
>> moment and would probably
>> buy the Echo Pro as my main delay unit providing it
>> can do what I want
>> (particularly MIDI bar/beat delay resolution as
>> above). Any experience of it
>> would be good to hear about.
>> 
>
>I love my Echo Pro.  It combined with my 7.6 Time
>Machine make a nice looping combo for me.  You can
>assign basically any parameter to a CC or the
>expression pedal, or you can save "scenes" per program
>so the expression pedal down = scene 1 settings (for
>example, nearly dry mix, few repeats) and pedal up =
>scene 2 (wet mix, many repeats, modulation) and the
>pedal sweep obviously transforms the program between
>the two settings or "scenes."  This alone is very
>handy.
>
>The looper does a max of two minutes on half speed, 1
>minute on regular speed, but even at half speed the
>fidelity is good.  You can access half speed and
>reverse at the same time (unlike the DL-4).
>
>The only problem I have with it, and this isn't really
>a problem, is that unless you set up a bank on your
>pedal board to exclusively control the Echo Pro, then
>your loop, overdub, and stop functions operate like
>the multi-button presses you have to do on a DL-4. 
>For example, on my FCB1010, most banks are set up
>where I have a dedicated tap tempo and two other
>pedals to control the looper.  The remaining 7 pedals
>I use to control the rest of my rig.  One bank I have
>set up to include the reverse and hald speed functins,
>so that's two more buttons gone, but 5 left to control
>the rig is plenty.  In these configurations, you have
>to double press the overdub or stop loop pedals
>depending on what you pressed last, because like on
>the DL-4, these functions are handled by 2 pedals.  I
>hope this makes sense.  Anyway, if I were to use up
>all ten pedals in a bank on my FCB1010, I could get
>around the double presses, but it's not a big deal so
>I haven't bothered.
>
>Regards,
>Rich
>
>
>
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