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Kim writes:- > these are all statements defining the process and techniques employed by > the musician on the creation side. None of them explain for a listener what > the result sounds like. That's what you need to do if you are >describing a > genre of music, you need to explain the characteristics of the result >from > the listener's perspective. Well try asking a few people to describe some music genres. It's quite rare that someone will give you an easy to grasp simple description of say, "what makes House different to Techno". ...most of the time you'll get a vague phrase that sort of describes how it might affect them emotionally, or just a phrase that they heard given as a definition. > > So when you try to claim Live Looping as a genre, I'm still lost as to what > you are talking about. I really don't see how regular music listeners >can > understand it either. do "regular music listener's" understand any of the other genre terms though. new age >>> very simple harmonic sequence and no dynamics, CD lasts 60mins blues >>> the same chord sequence all night punk >>> guitarist does all down strokes or do they just associate the term with an enjoyable(or "cool") experience > Certainly you can explain to them about the looping > techniques and devices the musicians are using, and maybe they will >find > that a bit interesting in an educational way. But that isn't describing the > music, and ultimately people go to listen to music not the musician's > technique. usually people go to listen to music because lots of other people do the same thing, the most common gig review is "it was a great night, there were lots of people there". Well I don't even know if anybodies "claiming Live Looping as a genre", some of us use it as a descriptive term for our music. At a "Live Looping" gig you will hear sounds that the musician isn't currently involved in producing, but neverless they appear to be in control of the sound, shaping it in some way, and adding to it by the use of their instrument. which is probably as good a definition for a type of music as "jazz" "classical" "rock", and at least gives you some idea of what the experience will be like, if not the audio part of the experience If you could describe a piece of music accurately, would there be any point in listening to it? (isn't that what makes it worth listening, the undescribable?) Well, if I don't give my music a name, I won't be able to promote it, so it's andybutler--livelooper