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I'm trying to narrow my wish list for a MIDI looper in the hope that something will actually meet these needs/desires... 1. I want multiple independent loops or phrases. 2. I want to arm a record on a loop and have it wait for me to press a key to start recording. I want to stop recording by hitting a button. The idea is, prep the device, play the loop, and then tell it to start looping by hitting another button. 3. I want it to exhibit EDP-like smarts or better with respect to quantization. In other words, I should be able to optionally quantize the loop length to a tempo but that shouldn't affect when exactly it starts and ends just how far apart they are. I also want to be able to generate tempo from loop length. 4. I would like to be able to overdub, but I might trade overdubbing for more easily accessible loops. 5. If I can overdub I want to be able to erase notes. 6. If I can overdub, I'd like to be able to multiply. 7. I want to play multiple loops at once more or less like a phrase sampler. >From a performance standpoint Roland's RPS function on their grooveboxes >and the phrase playback on the SP-808 is a good model but neither is particularly good for spontaneous phrase creation. Is there anything out there that can do this? If not and the answer is that I have to use a computer and Max, is there a particularly good control surface to use for this sort of task? I'd like something where I can provide visual feedback on the control surface so that I don't have to look at the computer screen to see what's going on. Mark