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> I'm trying to narrow my wish list for a > MIDI looper in the hope that > something will actually meet these > needs/desires... I can make you something like this with the Looper Construction Kit but it would require a computer and Kyma system of course. (1), (2) and (3) are no problem. I can't easily give you overdubbing but I can give you a good replacement (so that's (4) and (5)). I can give you multiply, too, without overdubbing (6). Multiple loops (7) is no problem. I haven't played around on a SP-808 much so I'm uncertain as to how their phrase playback works. Probably the trickest issue is a good control surface. The key, as you state, is good visual feedback. What kind of visual feedback would you like? Kyma has a Virtual Control Surface on the computer screen where you can create various visual feedback elements. (I use "fill buttons" a lot to simulate LEDs. They change color with their state (ON/OFF).) You could try out different types of visual feedback indicators, then use some of the DIY MIDI kits to make it in hardware. Ideally, the indicators would clamp like a meter bridge to an existing footpedal like the FCB-1010 forming one unit. Food for thought... Dennis Leas ----------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hamburg [mailto:mark_hamburg@baymoon.com] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:54 PM To: Looper's Delight Subject: MIDI looping (again) I'm trying to narrow my wish list for a MIDI looper in the hope that something will actually meet these needs/desires... 1. I want multiple independent loops or phrases. 2. I want to arm a record on a loop and have it wait for me to press a key to start recording. I want to stop recording by hitting a button. The idea is, prep the device, play the loop, and then tell it to start looping by hitting another button. 3. I want it to exhibit EDP-like smarts or better with respect to quantization. In other words, I should be able to optionally quantize the loop length to a tempo but that shouldn't affect when exactly it starts and ends just how far apart they are. I also want to be able to generate tempo from loop length. 4. I would like to be able to overdub, but I might trade overdubbing for more easily accessible loops. 5. If I can overdub I want to be able to erase notes. 6. If I can overdub, I'd like to be able to multiply. 7. I want to play multiple loops at once more or less like a phrase sampler. >From a performance standpoint Roland's RPS function on their grooveboxes >and the phrase playback on the SP-808 is a good model but neither is particularly good for spontaneous phrase creation. Is there anything out there that can do this? If not and the answer is that I have to use a computer and Max, is there a particularly good control surface to use for this sort of task? I'd like something where I can provide visual feedback on the control surface so that I don't have to look at the computer screen to see what's going on. Mark