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I use the GR33 with RMC acoustic Gold pickups on my Olson. I like the upright and fretless bass sounds and the trumpet, flutes and actually a lot of the sounds ( for a synth). I tried the Axon AX100SB and I thought those sounds sucked big time and the tracking was not that much better which I was really hoping it would be. I tried to use the Axon to trigger the GR33 sounds and that didn't work very well since you couldn't adjust the tracking between patches on the Axon. I guess at this point I'm not looking for groovy synth pad stuff but more "real" sounds for looping and I tried a Proteus (I forget which model but is was around $500) and the Axon and I wasn't digging those sounds. If anyone has suggestions I'd love to hear. Also if anyone knows what might track better than what I am using but that would still allow me to access the GR33 sounds that would be cool too. Thanks, Arthur Lee www.arthurleemusic.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:44 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: guitar synthesizers I agree, and I think that most people agree that at best, the Roland Guitar Synth sounds are fair. With enough layering and effects they can be passable, but why bother when there's a world of great synths out there. I find the tracking with my G-50 to be pretty good and it also doesn't take up additional floor space. There are even better Axon models now, but Yamaha seems out of that business more or less. One word of advise, when looking for a synth, try and find one that will allow a 24 + or - pitch bend range for the best results. My Roland XV-5050 does this, but my Korg MS2000R does not. Mark Sottilaro On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 08:00 PM, Chris Muir wrote: > At 7:09 PM -0700 6/13/03, Terry Blankenship wrote: >> What are the best guitar synths on the market in 2003? > > For my money, the best interfaces these days are ones based on neural > network technology: either the Axon AX-100 or the Yamaha G-50. > > _WAY_ better than the brute force period-counting approach used by 360 > Systems, Roland, Korg, and earlier Yamaha units. > > Chris > > -- > | In theory, there is no difference between > http://www.xfade.com/ | theory and practice. In practice, there is. > cbm@well.com | - Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut >