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You've got two variables here: your drummer's time and your time (actually three--your sense of time when it comes to playing your instrument and your sense of time when doing punches on your looper are probably two separate things at this point). Neither one is "perfect" in a metronomic sense. If you're going to have a rhythmic loop, EVERYONE has to follow the machine because the machine will never pay one bit of attention to the musicians. So, even if your time is really good by human standards, a few milliseconds of slop will quickly add up. The mechanical action of the HR buttons doesn't help anything either. My recommendation would be to get a MIDI syncable looper and have everyone play to some form of click track. If everyone has good metronomic time (again, not to be confused with good "groove" time, or whatever you want to call it), you'll probably all manage to stay together. A drummer will need a really good set of monitors to pull this off though, and a lot of enthusiasm for what many musicians dislike, i.e. playing to a click. Best of luck, TravisH On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 05:54 AM, ESL555@aol.com wrote: > > > My drummer has good time. I'm finding that it is difficult to get my > loops in perfect time. With the Akai it seems that there is a delay > after you click the footswitch so that your loop is always a little > behind. I guess I'm going to have to get real good at punching in and > out. >