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> memory and ears at that point. Although, Gary Willis > says he would ~never~ play a fretless bass without > lines ... One point I recall reading in a lines-vs-no lines debate among bassists was that having the lines make it much easier to start on cue at a specific note, say in a recording situation. > After playing violin as a kid, I figured if little > kids aren't frightened by violins, I shouldn't Having put in some time on viola, I found that the way the neck increases in width in certain places as you go up in pitch make it much easier for your muscle memory to "remember" where the notes are. Viola is taught like violin, with the concept of "positions" which makes learning note locations easier. The position where your thumb goes against the neck joint is actually easier for your fingers to locate pitches than "2nd position", if that makes any sense. That's why some people who order electric uprights want more than one thumb stop behind the higher part of the neck. Paolo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com