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"... but I don't think fret lines have any effect on Gary's or Jaco's intonation when playing their blazing riffs or when playing cross string runs ... it's just muscle memory and ears at that point" -- doug @ jump/cut We all know that blazing fast runs are when intonation matters the least. Stuff that goes by faster is harder to hear the flaws in. Intonation, tone, even note choice at a certain velocity -- it can all just go out the window! No wonder I play so busy... "After playing violin as a kid, I figured if little kids aren't frightened by violins, I shouldn't be afraid of a fretless bass with no lines as an adult ... there's much more room for error on a bass, even in the upper registers." -- doug @ jump/cut Kids are not afraid to play the violin shittily just like they're not afraid to pick their noses in public. They just don't know yet that it's "bad." Hahaha. > One point I recall reading in a lines-vs-no lines > debate among bassists was that having the lines make > it much easier to start on cue at a specific note, say > in a recording situation. That's what I'm talking about. I hate it when you get an eight bar break and then you're supposed to come in doubling some melody in the high register. FUCK. -J ..ooO(Really, I swear this whole thread has *something* to do with looping... Sorry, you fretted folks.)