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i was looping before i could play left hand/pedal bass. the progression went like this: phase one: sequencing and not playing phase two: looping, playing, and barely sequencing except for rhythm tracks phase three: selling the EDPs, buying an Hammond/Leslie rig, and playing for two years phase four: getting an RDS for texture looping during soul jazz gigs phase five: mothballing the Hammond to pursue the Berlin School (playing and sequencing, no looping) phase six: getting a repeater to bring the texture looping back into my music phase seven: all of the above so i wasn't looping to overcome a performance deficiency, but i did have a performance deficiency. after i got the Hammond i spent 6 hours a day practicing until i could play bass and solo/comp at the same time. i'm not sure what this had to do with the original thread, it seemed relevant though. --- Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com