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> crisp as dancehall hats, super tight and fast as hell. I still have > problems though with providing a fat kick, but as stated above, I'm > working on it. If you use a sm58 or 57 (other dynamics work well too!) patch it through your trusty filter bank (electrix filter factory, or similar) and put it on low pass with a high resonance. Then just tap the mic - bingo - an 808 style kick that's as fat as your filter can resonate - tune the pitch of it with the cutoff freq. - you'll know when its right. Leave a little of the dry sound in there if you want more attack. You can also do wonders to your live hi-hat beatbox sound with your filter bank. Jon