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Hello all, after a few years off, I'm back. LOL If you think about it, all the talk about manuals makes sense. Most companies are producing their technical writing on computers, so it isn't a hassle to convert to a PDF and upload to a website. To convert a manual, on the other hand, takes hours and people. Additionally, bandwidth costs money. Imagine how much money it would cost Roland to have all the 'legacy' product manuals online! Personally, I'd rather pay less for the products! We're currently working on a compact mixer, one or two rack spaces, designing with the looping community in mind. Obviously running MOST FX in parallel is preferred and we are taking this into consideration. I have a few questions for the group: First, in a perfect world, what would you fantasy mixer be able to do? (please keep your lewd thoughts and comments to yourself) Second, in the real world, what would you be willing to pay for such a mixer? We have concerns about quality/reliability and prefer to use the best components rather than make an inferior product. I know the looping community is growing, but is still a smaller portion of the market. As such, developing a product for said market can be expensive, but we are committed to the task. Please keep this in mind when you consider what you would pay for a 'dream mixer'. We'll have a naming contest in the future, probably long after we hammer out the features contained in the mixer. This should be fun!! Respect Will Brake Soul Fruit Electronics -----Original Message----- From: Greg House [mailto:ghunicycle@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Foot controllers? --- Paul Sanders <paul_sanders@adelphia.net> wrote: > Yeah. My Roland SPD-S manual really blows. Haha! It's a ROLAND manual! They're notoriously bad. I haven't seen a recent one, but the old ones were so poorly translated that it was hilarious to try and read them. You'd think a company with that much resources could afford to hire at least one person who was FLUENT in the languages involved (at least in the primary world languages). > The other thing that irritates the hell out of me about Roland is they don't > make the manuals available online. Makes researching capabilities kindof > difficult! Yes, that's bothered me too. I think it's because they want to charge you a lot for replacement print copies. Something like $20 for a little thin manual last time I checked. I love companies like Line 6 that put all their docs online (and updates as well). Greg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com