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Good description of your phasing technique, Cino! I especially like it because it's easy to do and it's a good general-purpose technique, useful in many situations. (I've changed the Subject line so that it will pop-up in LD archive searches with less effort.) And thanks for your compliments on my CT-Percussion tracks! There's a lot of good stuff there from many folks. Dennis Leas ----------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com -----Original Message----- From: Cino [mailto:CinoPolnesi@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:54 PM To: dennis@mail.worldserver.com; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: (affordable) stereo (live) looping? Dennis W. Leas wrote: > Several years ago I bought a second EDP > primarily because I wanted stereo looping. > To my surprise, I hardly ever use the pair in > stereo. Typically, I find it much more useful to > have two independent EDPs, sometimes synced > and sometimes not. > > Perhaps it's just how and what I loop. But, I'm > curious, how many owners of multi-EDP set-ups > actually use them in stereo? I don't. I'd been using the EDP for about 4 years, and 6 months ago got a second unit. I had no real desire to go to stereo, I was thinking more along the lines of "If 1 EDP is this great and versatile, imagine what 2 would be like!" Like you, I tend to use them both synced and unsynced. I tried the "stereo" option once (unintentionally) and my immediate thought was "Wow, that's kind of a waste of one very powerful machine!" Of course, this is only my opinion. My original intent was to send hand percussion to one unit and sync the other for melodic instruments and drones. But then I started mixing the two, having contrasting melodic and rhythmic patterns in each unit. I guess this is sort of a "default stereo," since there is a distinct separation. One of the things I've most enjoyed with this setup is placing percussion and melodic instruments in each of the two synced units, but setting them to different time lengths. For instance, I'll record a short loop on one, then multiply and overdub to, say, 8 "measures." Since the units are synced the second unit will pick up the original loop length when I record a separate pattern or instrument on it. I'll then multiply this out to, say, 10 "measures." This creates a very pleasant 'kaleidoscopic' shifting in patterns as the two loops go in and out of phase while still maintaining the same rhythmic basis. Then to make things really interesting I will record a melodic part into both units simultaneously. As soon as the loops shift out of phase, the melody will be heard in both left and right, but with a built-in delay between left and right. This sounds equally good in short delays (1-2 seconds) and longer delay times (>10 seconds, etc.). Another really cool effect is that when the 2 shifting loops return to the place in each loop where the "split" melody was originally recorded, it becomes "one" again (undivided) and stays a single voice until the loops go out of phase again. Very cool stuff. All of this works equally well with percussion on its own (can build up some really exquisite polyrhythms) or melodic instruments on their own. BTW, Dennis -- I really enjoy your pieces on the CT-Percussion project!