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Cino, What you are doing with two EDP's is very loosely analogous to the use of Isorhythms in 14th century Europe. Check out the music of Guillome de Machaut, one of the greatest known composers in the Western world until Bach. Though isorhythms can more precisely be done via MIDI, you are basically creating a set of polymetric loops. This is something that Fripp and others have explored quite a bit in the last few decades. Too bad the EDP can't do pitchshifting. Perhaps that is something that some enterprising indiviual with two Repeaters might try... Taking the loopers out of sync with each other will be following in the footstep's of some of Steve Reich's earlier phase work, to mention just one name... With the EDP, you might try going into half or double speed or reverse at a quantised point. This immediately takes you into Bach fugal territory as he shows with his augmentation, diminution, inversion and retrogradation of themes. I'd love to hear this with 4 EDP's! If you are panning your EDP's (not necessarily hard left and right), you will of course make all this interplay more obvious to an audient, not to mention keeping track of it yourself. Stephen Dennis W. Leas wrote: > Several years ago I bought a second EDP... Cino responded: <<<One of the things I've most enjoyed with this setup is placing percussion and melodic instruments in each of the two synced units, but setting them to different time lengths. For instance, I'll record a short loop on one, then multiply and overdub to, say, 8 "measures." Since the units are synced the second unit will pick up the original loop length when I record a separate pattern or instrument on it. I'll then multiply this out to, say, 10 "measures." This creates a very pleasant 'kaleidoscopic' shifting in patterns as the two loops go in and out of phase while still maintaining the same rhythmic basis. Then to make things really interesting I will record a melodic part into both units simultaneously. As soon as the loops shift out of phase, the melody will be heard in both left and right, but with a built-in delay between left and right. This sounds equally good in short delays (1-2 seconds) and longer delay times (>10 seconds, etc.). Another really cool effect is that when the 2 shifting loops return to the place in each loop where the "split" melody was originally recorded, it becomes "one" again (undivided) and stays a single voice until the loops go out of phase again. Very cool stuff. All of this works equally well with percussion on its own (can build up some really exquisite polyrhythms) or melodic instruments on their own.>>> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com