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Perhaps I should have been clearer. These mp3s were actually offered to a Reaktor-Composer's forum, as part of a different dialog. I mentioned them here only because they ARE extracted from the R4 demo CD I made, but they're not typical of the 25 or so minutes of demos on it, since each of these is a ramble thru a single effect preset, as opposed to the bulk of the demo, which is many short passes thru many different presets of a bunch of Reaktor virtual processors. So, if you want a better idea of the range of R4 FX, send me an address and I'll forward a copy of the whole thing. Even so, the point of any of these tracks is NOT Reaktor as a preamp or amp simulator...it's the FX. Reaktor4 now includes a guitar-amp/speaker simulator, but I didn't bother to demo it since I'm not interested in using the computer to make a guitar sound like a guitar. The preamps I used include VG8/88, PodXT, and GT6, so I guess our tastes in preamp sounds differ? I hadn't even considered that that would matter. I also prefer hardware for some stuff, but I've ditched a couple of mpx1's and Vortex's along the way in my exploration of digital fx, and don't miss 'em at all. Reaktor outshines them, for my purposes, in every conceivable way. dc mark <sine@zerocros To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com sing.net> cc: Subject: Re: Reaktor 4 as gtr processor 07/22/2003 04:13 PM Please respond to Loopers-Deligh t Hmmm, I'm listening to the samples... and I'm a bit unimpressed. They're at a high bitrate, yet they sound thin... were you going directly into some A/D converter when you made this? I'm curious to know the recording process... sounds like the guitar wasn't put through a good preamp or something. Other than that the effects sound interesting, but for $500 I'd just as soon get a couple of Lexicon Vortexes or a used Lexicon MPX1 and free up my CPU for other stuff. Maybe I'm just old school but I like dedicated hardware for some stuff. Mark Sottilaro