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Mark Sottilaro said: What's the big deal about defining loop length? Ever since I've looped with a JamMan synced to a MIDI clock I've had to preset how many beats my loop was going to be and I never, ever found it to be a limitation. In fact, I think it's a kind of nice structure. Like picking out a length of tape and then dealing with it. My thoughts: WindowingT with the EDP is all about redefining loop length. I have lots of fun changing meters with the EDP I use for percussion. BTW, I alerted Harvey Starr to the thread and expect him to start auditing this list (perhaps . . .) so I would appreciate it if anyone with the information would talk about how the EDP determines BPM by loop size. I am afraid I am more of a guitar player than an engineer . . . Gary PS Has anyone got a report on the new DigiDelay X-series stomp box by DigiTech? I wonder . . . they don't cost much-- G