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Your reply answers the question partially John I like the way you are using it. I am currently working out a reduced sized or small scale rig and the Adrenalinn fits very nicely into this scenario especially in the upgraded format which does indeed seem to operate as a mini Looper/Phrase Sample (check the sample on the page at http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/01products/adren2.html) I found one patch in particular in which the sequenced filter was very much influenced by the builtin drum machine pattern (which I don't use much but did on the occasion of this discovery). Now I know the Adrenalinn supports MIDI Clock Synch but the thing I believe that I am driving at is this does a MIDI note have to be audible to influence the sequenced filter in a beat synched effect. I know this seems almost ridiculous to ask but still I can't verify if the answer is definatively yes or no and I guess some further experimentation is going to be required including the one you recommended John. Damn this thing is good I use it with an electric violin and a mic'd acoustic violin. Thanks again John Al Kroeger -----Original Message----- From: John Mazzarella [mailto:jmazzarella@erols.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Adrenalinn II (Upgrade) MIDI Beat Synch ? Alan Kroeger wrote: > I was pondering this one for a bit and I hope I can make my question > sound sensible to those tha might have an answer. The Adrenalinn has > beat synced effects modulation, filtering and delay. Using the > Adrenalinn with the drum machine these are some very interesting beat > synched effects but, I don't actually want to use the drum machine. > The question is whether there is such a thing as an inaudible Beat > Sync or does it unfortunately have to be audible. Is this function in > some devices and just lacking in the Adrenalinn because, I could > possibly send the beat synce to the Adrenalinn from a capable MIDI > device. Any Ideas or information I realize I might sound completely > idiotic so patience please :) > > Al Kroeger Hey Al, I'm not sure if this answers your question, but here goes. I rarely ever use the Adrenalinn drum sounds. I shut them off.(The manual explains how to do this). The Adrenalinn will sync to MIDI clock coming from any device that sends it. I use my EDP as the MIDI master clock. EDP MIDI out to Adrenalinn MIDI in. I set up a one bar loop (sometimes silent, sometimes percussive) and the Adrenalinn syncs perfrectly. I've also used the Kork ER-1 drum machine, Pro Tools, and a Yamaha Motif as the MIDI master, and it works great. Hope that helps. Feel free to ask more. I love using the Adrenalinn with the EDP. It's become a staple of my live shows. John www.johnmazzarella.com