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Don Makoviney had to know: >So how did you utilize the 4 second looping? Rhythm and then solos? Did >you tap out any percussion on the shell of the guitar? >Details man! Hahaha. DM There are a couple of cool things about this pedal. One is that you can start record of the loop with a single press, that sends you into overdub as long as you hold the pedal down. Since I am pretty familiar with how long 4 seconds is at this point, I was able to construct phrases over which to solo, yah. That's pretty much what I do with loops-although I do try to use my imagination, I don't do what Andre for example does--or Matthias, although he seems to do a LOT. Sorta like what Claude Voit does, but again, these are highly actualized loopers. Ahm jus' an ol' country boy with too much gear . . . Hey, I played Red Wing at the Santa Cruz Y2K2 Feste-- The new Taylor seems to be good for the percussion thing! There was a thread a while back about how piezo equipped acoustics were not great for percussion, but this one is very live--the pickups are magnetic, and there are several, but it sounds very acoustic. Rupert Neve was involved in the pickup's development--it is something of a breakthrough, from what I understand. http://www.rupertneve.com/rupertneve_link.html Gary