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I tell you, I've been down this road so many times, and no matter what I can't really love any pitch shifting octave divider devices. The best I've heard was a Roland VG8 (it tracked perfectly and didn't have a noticeable latency), but you said you don't want a GK2 solution. I find now that I'll drag out a real bass guitar and the lug is worth it. Yesterday, I played a gig in Berkeley where I did all the bass parts by hand using the pads of an E-MU XL-7. They're a bit spongy, but they're velocity sensitive and have after-touch. I thought it went really well and it was nice not to have to bring a separate synth module. The XL-7's got 3 sets of stereo outputs so I could route some sounds directly to the PA, and others to my Repeater. Best of both worlds. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 10:02 AM, William R. Walker, wrote: > Hello Per, At one time I had a Digitech IPS 33B, a rack mount harmony > proccessor that did everything from simple octave up and octave down, > to > full on diatonic three part harmonies, to whammy effects, to deep space > station like ambient effects. Essentially, a beer budget Eventide > harmonizer. The model that came after that was DHP55 that allowed up to > five part harmonies, so you could do instrumental boy band > harmonies!(Yikes!) I agree with Stan that the whammy pedal is a good > bet if > you want something on the floor. Also, the boss octaver would be a > worthy > candidate, much more worthy than Arnold Schwarzenegger (hardy har har > har!). And last but not least, if you can locate a used Boss VF1 half > rack > proccessor, that has some very useable pitch transposition functions, > not > to mention a fairly convincing frettless bass model and a host of other > cool effects both conventional, (reverb, chorus, delay) and non- > conventional (VG8 style modeling,psuedo synth sounds, and ring > modulation). > Michael Manring turned me on to the VF1, the last time he played in > Santa > Cruz, and I found one used on ebay for pretty cheap. The VF1 is a half > rack > 24 bit device with plenty of headroom, clean transparent sound, and a > dedicated hi-Z input on the front for guitar or bass. A very deep box. > Bill > >