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Howdy, In a message dated 8/14/03 1:59:15 PM, ghunicycle@yahoo.com writes: >At some point you're purchasing it for the utility it provides. So if your >ProVerb has given you $75 worth of utility over the last 10 years, it >doesn't >matter if it's not worth a dime tomorrow. I have a few effects like this. >My closet is big enough to keep 'em around for that slim chance I'll use >'em >again if nobody wants to give me a decent price for 'em. <grin> I thought I'd "pipe in" on this thread as well. I've been using the same old, and very unfashionable ART SGX 2000 for nearly 10 years now (gosh, has it really been so long). About midway through that decade I was able to upgrade the software via an eprom swap or 2 that made it equal to the SGX 2000 "Express" with 400 preset slots and bunch of other added "whiz" and "bang" that I really don't use that much. Too bad I couldn't swap out the faceplate (I've never liked that pink, gray and black "paint-splat" color scheme). As a "one-box-replaces-all" multi-effects unit it was one of the biggest equipment purchase mistakes I've ever made -- and it cost me over $600 at the time (which seemed like a lot of dough then). Plus, I sold off a bunch of really cool vintage stomp-boxes in order to buy it. Silly me. However, over the years I have really come to love the warmth of the stupid thing as a tube preamp (of all things). I use it for that and a couple of patches that I have worked up on it that have come to represent a goodly portion of my "core sound." I have never created and used more than 3 or 4 custom patches on the silly thing -- so all of that "horsepower" is for naught. But, given that I have had it so long now and gotten so much usefulness out of just those 3 or 4 patches, that still makes it a bargain in the long run (about $60+ a year). As I know that it'll eventually wear out (everything electronic does) and one day that pink 'n' gray paint job will surely make me puke for the very last time, I still can't help but wonder what I'll replace it with. I've tried a number of things over the years and most of them are pretty darn unsatisfactory. So far the CyberTwin or the VG-88 seems about the best things for dialing in a tone that sounds "familiar" enough to my disintegrating earbones (plus adding a lot of other FX whoo ha in the bargain). It just goes to show that you can't tell a book by it's cover and that you never know what delights you may find in stuff that is as obsolete and resolutely unfashionable as some of those old "has-been" FX laying around your garage or closet. Heck! My whole guitar shtick has been built around the obsolete Gibson RD Artist, the out-of-production Sustainiac Model B, the totally un-cool SGX 2000 and the long defunct Lexicon Vortex, plus the same old EDPs I've had since they came out (with occasional upgrades) for more years straight than I care to admit. Do the math. I wouldn't exactly call my music "the cutting edge of fashion" (hardly). But, I am having a whole lotta fun . . . still. Cheers, tEd ® kiLLiAn http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html