Re: EDP loop technique question

[Travis <tiktok@sprintmail.com>]

No, you couldn't do exactly what you're describing below with just one 
EDP, particularly if you're looking to do it as a seamless performance. 
  With the way the EDP stores overdubs or "layers", you can't get rid of 
earlier stuff and leave the later stuff (via Undo or clever copying of 
loops and switching between them to simulate muting on mixing desk).  
You could do something like this:

With number of loops set to 4
Record the instrumental section in loop 1.
Copy loop 1 to loop 2, overdub the vocal part
Turn off the copy sound parameter for loop copy, go to loop 3 and 
re-record all the vocals, sans guide track.
Overdub new parts on that vocal loop (on loop 3, or copy the vocals to 
loop 4 and overdub on that so you maintain a clean version of the 
vocals to return to later), then switch between the four loops for the 
effect you've described.

However, this wouldn't allow you to do it as a seamless performance,  
and I think that's what you're trying for.  With just one EDP you're 
limited to a "linear" form of loop construction: you can build things 
up, remove subsequent layers, or wipe everything, but you can't erase 
earlier stuff without touching later stuff except in a limited manner 
via feedback.  Turning down the feedback does this in a gradual manner, 
but it would probably be sort of clumsy for the scenario you've 
described.

My personal unimplemented EDP feature is "feedback tap", so you can set 
the number of repeats to precisely 2, or 3 or 4, but each at 100%.  
Previous layers wouldn't get quieter and vanish, they'd stay at full 
level and then totally disappear when they expired.


TravisH

On Saturday, August 16, 2003, at 01:48 AM, 
Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote:

> From: John Mazzarella <jmazzarella@erols.com>
> Date: Fri Aug 15, 2003  5:12:02 PM US/Pacific
> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"  
> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: EDP loop technique question
>
>
> Hi All,
>     Here is a question for you.  I use an EDP.  I've seen Howie Day do
> this thing where he builds up an intrumental loop on his guitar with 
> one
> looper, and then builds up a vocal loop on a seperate looper.  He then
> has the ability to turn one loop off while the other plays.  I'd like 
> to
> be able to do this, but I'm not sure if it can be done with just one
> EDP.
>     Here is what I'd like to do.  Build up an intrumental loop of some
> sort.  Then add vocals on top of it, with vocal harmonies and the whole
> things.  Then I'd like to drop the intrumental part out of it and just
> hear the vocals.  I'd then like to play some new stuff on my guitar
> underneath the vocals.  Any strategies for doing this with one EDP?  I
> suspect a clever use of feedback may be needed.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John
> www.johnmazzarella.com
>