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-----Original Message----- From: Travis If you're playing with other musicians,<snip> I don't see how you can "adjust" the loop. <snip> Trying to shoehorn it into previous musical forms, such as an AABA song is sort of a dead-end. TravisH On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 01:44 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: >> If you want to play with other musicians, a looper is a barrier >> because it's like playing to a click track... which everyone hates, >> unless >> they're another looping musician. > > That's true if the looper is a beginner and doesn't know how to adjust > their loops with the music around them. WEELLL . . . this is a particular issue for me, as I use sequences as well in a solo context, and also with other musicians. My take on this is, you are the leader when you have the "hot potato" of the loop or sequence (or CD, whatever). The musicians with whom I work do not always allow me that privilege. I do have some dates coming up at the Hyatt next to Seaport Village where I am required to bring sequences, and hope that situation is agreeable (I have never played with the musicians on the date--one of them is the fine San Diego based trumpeter Gilbert Castellanos) http://www.groundfloorentertainment.com/gilbert_castellanos.htm In the future it will be easier to "adjust" loops and software based processors are probably the platform. For now I am happy with what I have--the EDP sure beats the Jamman! I never could get it to do what I wanted . . . Those other guys who make it happen with 32 seconds astound me. Gary