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Weird. It looks fine to me now as well. Must be a glitch in the Matrix. Mark Sottilaro. On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 10:19 AM, Greg House wrote: > What you quoted looks like std ascii text to me. The original message > looked fine > in my yahoo viewer when I got it. > > Greg > > --- msottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: >> Hey, I keep getting posts of jibberish (see below) Anyone know what >> that's about? My email client deals with html (which I can see that >> this is not), RTF and Plain Text, but what the hell is this? >> >> Mark Sottilaro >> >> On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 05:08 AM, Don Makoviney wrote: >> >>>>>> 2) Someone like me who comes from a traditional music >>>>> background (blues >>>>>> and >>>>>> jazz) automatically thinks in terms of traditional song >>>>> structures like >>>>>> A-A-B-A. How many people on this list have actually tried to loop >>>>>> a >>>>>> traditional verse-verse-chorus-verse song? I've been working >>>>> at it for a >>>>>> year, and it's frustrating. The Repeater fixes the bar >>>>> length with the first >>>>>> recorded track, so forget an AABA song where the "B" section >>>>> is a different >>>>>> number of bars, unless you want to get into a Midi pedal tap >>>>>> dancing >>>>>> nightmare of arming and switching between loops. >>>>> >>>>> seems to me your problem is specific with the repeater, not >>>>> looping. That's >>>>> simple to deal with in the Echoplex. The boomerang might be >>>>> able to do it >>>>> too, I'm not sure. The jamman had the same problem of forcing >>>>> all the loops >>>>> to be the same length. >>> >>> Yes Kim, you're right. The Boomerang allows you to have two different >>> loops of size. I use that a lot. Guys like Keller Williams write very >>> simple AABA songs using an Echoplex. Blues, bluegrass, funk. All that >>> stuff. Loopers work great for more traditional stuff. Check out DJ >>> Williams too. >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>> And then there is the >>>>>> problem of the "crash to a singularity" when you've built up >>>>> a looped >>>>>> "A" section with bass, rhythm guitar and lead, and then >>>>> suddenly move >>>>>> to naked guitar on the "B" section because it needs a new >>>>> bass line and >>>>>> new rhythm chords. If you're not working in the ambient soundscape >>>>>> style, you can't hide these transitions with washes of delay >>>>> and reverb >>>>>> tails. >>> >>> Keller Williams also does this well. He builds up a section then just >>> stops the Echoplex and goes to a single live (unlooped) guitar and >>> his >>> voice. It's pretty powerful and works well. I believe the EDP also >>> allows you to copy over to other loops so when you get a good simply >>> stacked loop (i.e. bass drums and a rhythm for example) you can copy >>> that puppy to another loop, right? (I'm just going off what I glean >>> from the lists. . .I don't own one.) On my Boomerang I can switch >>> from >>> recording a loop to b loop with one button so I often just keep >>> playing the same thing (like a bass line or guitar riff) onto the >>> other loop too so I have two loops of the same thing. It's not as >>> easy >>> as simply COPYING a working loop like with the Echoplex, but I didn't >>> spend the extra few hundred for the EDP (dang it). It requires a >>> slight bit more maneuvering and forethought (like maybe remembering >>> to >>> also play the next couple of things I stack on the B loop too), but >>> it >>> works in a fairly logical manner. >>> >>> Mark, seriously, check out Keller's live album called "Loop". There's >>> some great stuff on there in the "traditional" style you seem to come >>> from. He uses an Echoplex. >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Don M >>> >> > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >