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Eee hee hee heee, The Kaoss Pad is totally dope! I finally plugged the Ztar doubleneck straight into it, and assigned the joystick to the axes (axi?) of the pad and played some one handed guitar for a while. Kinda like when my right arm was operated on, but wackier . . . Not a looper but darned effective in getting you off the path you had in mind-- Gary