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Yes, it has been more painful to listen to everyone whine about one off topic post than to just deal with haphazard off-topics we get only every couple of months. No need to nip anything in the bud, since there is nothing to nip - or nothing that a friendly private email to the "supposed" offender might have taken care of.
If we begin to see a pattern or trend beginning that we need to quell, then lets quell it. But I haven't seen one though (except for this thread - which has sadly caused several cool loopers to unsubscribe from this list).
-DM
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: glenn [mailto:glenn234@pacbell.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:53 AM
>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>Subject: Re: RUDE (was Re: looking for a Warr)
>>
>>
>>I feel this is rationalization for a Lord of the Flies kind
>>of phenomenon,
>>
>>if a person walked into a party and made their first attempt
>>to socialize in that environment and the dominant males by
>>the watering holes surrounded that person and started clawing
>>at the individual, this would be sad. It would suggest a
>>(tightknit, not in the sense of freestanding natural
>>closeness alone, but rather accompanied by an high sense of
>>self worth psychological investment in who is in and who is
>>out - essentially fear based mentality) party, without
>>compassion or even the tact to welcome a newcomer(whether
>>their first word are awkward or not): it would cheapen the party.
>>
>>how about it was meaningless and innocent. If they started
>>posting ads daily for all kinds of band instruments and links
>>to porn sites then by all means, I'll act like a baboon right
>>alongside. But what some here are up to feels a bit more like
>>a pre-emptive strike, rationalized by a kind of "well
>>probably have some WMD they're getting ready to use". has
>>Bush really been so influential to the human spirit?
>>
>>okay so someone starts out by saying anyone got a high end
>>bass x for sale?
>>
>>so what?
>>
>>hopefully we have got enough raw content to sustain us
>>without spiraling into this kind of trigger-happy caca, which
>>by the way is a LOT more painful to sift through than if
>>someone had posted half a dozen gear ads.
>>
>>For instance: I know it's been covered in a lot of ways, but
>>can anyone suggest a testing regimen for a just-purchased
>>simpletech 256 cfc on a repeater? (I'll post what i did and
>>how well it worked on this and hopefully not other models)
>>Someone said something about forwards and backwards recording
>>in stereo? Very open to CFC testing tips. have to test it
>>friday/sat of this week cause it's just before the return
>>period is over.
>>
>>Why not let this whole thing go, welcome this
>>member(welcome!) and move on already.
>>
>>
>>
>>thanks,
>>glenn
>>
>>syc·o·phant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sick-of ant)
>>n.
>>
>>A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering
>>influential people.
>>
>>
>>on 9/9/03 10:01 AM, Mark Sottilaro at sine@zerocrossing.net wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome to the internet. A forum where you can't see any
>>of the other
>>> contributers is ripe with this kind of behavior.
>>>
>>> However, while we all go Off Topic (often a lot), I think
>>the reason
>>> that you're getting an especially rude reaction is because
>>this is the
>>> first and only post any of us have ever seen from you.
>>Perhaps if you
>>> had introduced yourself, described how your loop setup
>>works or what
>>> you're doing with loops and your music and THEN asked if any of us
>>> knew of a Warr for sale you would have received a much
>>better and more
>>> helpful response. I get pissed at people who yell at me
>>for being off
>>> topic every now and then (ok, maybe a lot) because I've been typing
>>> volumes about looping and looping gear on this list since 1994.
>>>
>>> Think of it in terms of a party. Would you walk into a party where
>>> you didn't know anyone and ask if anyone was selling a Warr
>>guitar?
>>> Nope. Even if you knew it was populated by a lot of
>>musicians, you'd
>>> first try to strike up general conversations with the people at the
>>> party based on what they were already talking about and
>>*then* maybe
>>> interject that you were looking for a certain instrument. Walking
>>> into a party and interrupting the conversation with your specific
>>> agenda is.. well plain and simply rude. You can't change
>>the world,
>>> but you can change yourself.
>>>
>>> Frankly, if you became one of the people who only made random off
>>> topic posts I'd probably eventually just set up an email
>>filter to not
>>> have to deal with you. Maybe rude, but time effective. No
>>one here
>>> really owes you anything, so maybe you'd be better off
>>thinking about
>>> what you can give before you ask for what you can get.
>>>
>>> Mark Sottilaro
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2003, at 02:19 AM, Amy Mucero wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find that some people are very rude here
>>>
>>