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One alternative that I am working with now is the new MOTU 828 Mk II. It has 10 discrete ins (which include 2 XLR's with built in pres and 48v phantom power and their own individual inserts) and 8 outs (on top of all the ADAT and SPIDF digital I/O's). The cool thing is that even though it is created as a firewire recording interface it also has the capability to operate as a standalone digital mixer with 4 separate busses which sort of act like a matrix mixing system. You can bring in a series of inputs and output those to any of the outputs for processing, then bring that effected signal back into a different bus, etc., etc. It also has a headphone jack on the front and you can even assign the headphone as the output for one of the mixes which could act as your own personal monitor mix. All this can be programmed and set from the PC or Mac, but can be modified right from the front (volume, routing, panning, etc.) of the unit without any computer hooked up. I am still trying to work it into my system as my main mixer and so far its looking pretty promising. The final nice thing is that it is a single rack space unit! Regards, Steve Ginn On 9/19/03 9:10 PM, "Mike Barrs" <mbarrs@nightviewer.com> wrote: >> From: wavelet [mailto:wavelet@petebrunelli.com] >> >> I've been using a Ashly single space 8 channel, and it is a very >> versatile mixer but it lacks sends/returns. It is basically >> a broadcast mixer but it has great fidelity and stereo/mono >> capability. MX308 is the model, but it may have been replaced. >> It isn't in my rack at the moment because it is on loan but >> I've had noting but positive experiences with it. > > I think the current model is the Ashly LX 308B, 8 stereo pairs, but the >main > thing is it has a headphone jack with a separate level control. That's >the > one I'm still leaning towards, since I need the ability to kill the main > outputs and listen to just headphones when I practice. I need the >headphone > jack more than I need the full stereo FX loop feature I was looking for. >It > seems to be impossible to get both those features in the same 1u line >mixer. > > Thanks again to everyone for the feedback! > > Mike Barrs >