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Can't answer for anyone else, but for me the two loopers thing is about keep the music mobile... Music is all about tension and release, a concept which goes from the trad understanding of it in terms of harmony, to the notion of expectation and it's fulfillment or confounding and how that provides an experiential tension or release depending on what happens. There are rhythmic tensions, textual tensions, and subtle combinations of them all in terms of phrasing. It's the same reason why very little of my solo stuff is strictly 'in time' - the timing is controlled, but it has a lot of ebb and flow in it in order the allow for a more involved sense of rhythmic tension and release, both within each loop, and between the different loops. So when I juxtapose two loops that are not in time with one another, it means that at any one time, the vertical harmonic and textural experience is 'new' - there's enough that's familiar for people to not feel like it's just random, but the juxtaposition of the material in either loop in a new way give it that feeling of forward motion, even when the same loop is running for a number of minutes... All this stuff was worked on before I got an EDP - back when I had a JamMan and a DL4, and therefor had no feedback control. With the functions in the EDP, it's possible to get things shifting without two units (heck, it's possible with any of the units and some creative thinking, but the archetecture of the EDP is designed for it) - either in an Andre-esque glitchy/replace/sub/multiply/FSU kind of way or in a Matthias Grob fade/evolve/expand/mellowness kind of way. Both of their albums are excellent source material for what to do with an EDP, and both can be got from www.cdbaby.com For my stuff, I'd advice heading over to my site and ordering all four albums, though feel free to start with the MP3s... ;o) Steve www.stevelawson.net (new guestbook/forum here - www.stevelawson.net/interact ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Carabee" <compguy@bestweb.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: Why use 2 loopers? Hi List, I've been enjoying my Boomerang for a few weeks now, and I'm starting to develop some questions which I hope you don't mind my asking... Exactly why and how does one go about using two seperate looping devices? Maybe someone can explain to me the way they are used together (FWIW, I'm a guitarist). Also, is there a list of great looping recordings out there? I'd like to hear what other people are doing. Thanks! Brian