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> From: Steve Lawson [mailto:steve@steve-lawson.co.uk] > I also think that a lot of musicians are just too into making music to > bother discussing it endlessly online. I'm sure there are players whose > approach to learning about a form is to read product reviews, > listen to some artists, then just futz around with the gear until they > get a vibe, rather than come here and ask questions about the nature of > looping. Or they'll ask them to specific players who are lurking >elsewhere > on the net. A lot of the people who use looping that I know are using >DL4s > and Headrushes and RC-20s for some pretty basic functions, so the notion > of a loop list is kind of a like 'Chorus Delight' or 'Tremelo Delight' to > them - it just doesn't get under the radar. I agree... I think that's a big part of the "where are the other loopers" question! I know of a half-dozen looping guitar players on the jazz guitar Usenet group, and another half-dozen or so on the acoustic guitar Usenet group. I've mentioned Looper's Delight as a resource several times, but they'll probably never show up here as full-time participants. These musicians use looping to simulate a backup musician in traditional song formats. They're not interested in ambient regenerative loops, or topics discussed in the "Why use 2 loopers?" thread like sliding two loops against each other in pitch or time. That's a totally foreign concept. They're using loopers as basic tools, like a distortion or chorus pedal. It's a way to solo on top of a chord sequence. So there's two things going on here... they don't NEED a deep discussion of looping techniques, and two, they probably can't relate to the predominantly ambient/texture (or whatever the heck you call it) musical style of many musicians on this list. P.S. I'm a 'trad song format looper, and I have no problem with what I see as a pretty strong "ambient/texture/soundscape" bias on this list. I just cherry-pick the topics I'm interested in. But I skip a lot of stuff, just because I don't have TIME to interact fully, and the ambient stuff isn't my personal thing. -- Mike Barrs