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>From: "Andy Morris" <apmorris59@hotmail.com> >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:47:06 +0000 >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: DD 20 vs RC 20 >can the dd-20 overdub? Yes indeed. Once you have the loop going, you can press the same pedal and overdub indefinitely, up to white noise, 23 secs. I guess my fave thing is that for LIVE performance this thing shines. The looper+4 preset delays+a LCD screen so you can see delay time or loop status from quite a distance. Great onstage device for the price. >From: "Michael Stauffer" <michael@circular-logic.com> >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:23:17 -0500 >To: "Looper Delight List" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: Midi Looping (was: who here uses MIDI?) [snip..]I've recently got into playing my midi guitar (strat with Roland GK-2A and GR-33 module) and the part I love is that I can switch sounds very quickly, from bass to pitched bell to helicopter. I love the GK2A world. But - a little clarification - it isn't MIDI traveling down the GK cable -but a Roland wiring/hex-pickup scheme. The GR units all spit out MIDI real well though, making the ubiquitous used units a cheap alternative to the GI-10 or other rack mount guitar-midi devices. >The part I don't like is the just-barely-perceptable delay between >hitting a >note and hearing the sound. You nailed it - that's the crux of the midi-guitar 'problem' or on the bright side we could call it a 'characteristic'. I find it depends on the sound. For instance - fast attack sounds like marimbas, vibes, percussion and flute sound great and can track insanely fast and clean lines. But synth washes and some horns & keyboard sounds etc can sound like crap. Pick and choose. Also - you can make some drastic changes if you dig into the programming - you should have some settings for string sensitivity. The status of your guitar neck becomes super important for synth guitar as well. It should be well set up, and as free of fret-buzzes and wierdly decaying notes as you can make it. The Nut, and your guitar's individual sustain will also play a huge part in how notes are sounded and decay. Like you said - mixing in a little guitar makes a huge difference re: the attack being there for your ear. Guitar synth will be the endless debate - but the bottom line for me is that it IS doable in an excellent way - Pat Metheny, Steve Morse, John McLaughlin - all have shown that you can get some amazing music going. I'd say Morse of all people - audiences actually probably don't even realize HOW MUCH of the synth stuff is him - when they are watching the Morse Band, the Dregs or Deep Purple. He's developed a way to have several guitar sounds and synth sounds all under volume pedal control, like a big mixing board in front of him. >I'd love to get a Starr labs guitar controller some day when I can afford >one. Now THAT's the deal!! those are great - I never played one - but when I saw Vernon Reid with GUITAR OBLIQUE (Reid, Torn and Elliot Sharp) he had one - and they track ridiculously (perfect?) - but I think as reluctant as guitarists are to try this technology, a guitar with no strings on the neck weirds out most of the people I've talked to about it. Guitar synth - it's just one posssible tool. I have personally been having more fun making bizarre synth like sounds out of moogerfooger and filtering stuff, but the synth is a nice drone maker and spice. -Andre' east