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Re: Even More out of tune
Title: Re: Even More out of tune
At 7:47 PM -0500 2/7/04, David Beardsley wrote:
In 12 tone equal temperament, IT IS THE
SAME SCALE. There's
no way anyone can spin it to make it look any different from
reality.
The diatonic scale (aka the major scale) has 7 modes.
Learn it. Live with it. Realty.
We were discussing tuning, someone gets their vocabulary tripped
up
and now we're off on trivial
persuit.
You're a microtonalist (and presumably a jazzer) and I'm not, so
perhaps you learned music theory and terminology according to a
different system from me. I'm following the definition of "scale"
as I learned it in my college music classes (exclusively from a
classical point of view), as it has been used in my subsequent musical
activities, and as it is defined in Grove's Dictionary of Music and
Musicians. My understanding is that a musical scale is not merely an
ordered set of stepwise intervals, but that it also has reference to a
tonic center. Therefore you have a C major scale or an Dorian scale on
D, and so on. To state that the seven diatonic modes are all the same
scale is to ignore the tonal context in which they are used.
Perhaps you need to take this up with William Drabkin <wmd@soton.ac.uk>.
He's the one who wrote the Grove's entry for "scale."
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