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HI Mike I think that ind of new age sludge you are looking for could be created by turning the volume control of your guitar all the way off, then playing the note you want to drop into the loop, just before turning the volume back up in a smooth motion, this way there is no attack to the notes so they sound more synthy, try playing into your pedal, the root note, hold it till you hear it coming back at you in the loop, then add the octave of this note but only hold it for a short time, (the appearence f this note as it loops will give you an idea of the timeing that you are playing to, then begin dropping in harmonics 5ths 7ths , what ever your mind fancys, then close the loop and begin soloing!!!!! good luck dude, let us all know how your getting on, and welcome to this crayzee world of looping, your time and money will never be the same again!! Phill Wilson >How does one lay done that nice, sort of sitaristic background pad to play >against (so I can perpetrate some new age sludge for my friends ands >neighbors...ha) > >Mike Cripe >Tampa, Fl. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger