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I have an RC-20. I've found it very easy to play live, but the cycling between phrases is useless. From what I've heard the rang would be a better investment, but I couldn't afford it OR the real estate on the pedalbard. >...If you use an extra pedal to move between loops, does it move at the >end of the loop, or whenever you hit the button? when the current phrase ends, the next one kicks in automatically. >If it can only move one "direction" can you tap the pedal twice to "skip" >a loop (say, moving from loop #1 to loop #3), or does it have to play >through the one in the middle first? One at a time. It cycles from 1 to 10 and stops. >How difficult is it to delete old loops, start new ones, and move between >them, in a live setting? I've heard a lot of people talk about a "Undo" >feature on the more expensive units, does the RC-20 have anything similar? No undos or anything, and if you want to save a loop, you have to write it to memory or it's lost. I use it live only for a one-shot effect or using the current loop only. Also the 5:30 of memory is divided between the 11 phrases, not 5:30 for each phrase. So I found that pretty disappointing too. Nice unit though, good bang for the buck. Kevin ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10