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I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE have? Vox is not doing a good job of advertising this feature as I have only heard it mentioned here. Also, I saw you mention in another post that the Tonelab will let you disable the cabinet simulations so you can use it with an amp w/out double filtering your signal. I am wondering if it is possible for you to disable all the amp-like parts and use it as a multi-fx unit. Can you tweak the parameters in real time easily while you playing? I would like to get the Tonelab to record with and then I would like to use it with a real guitar amp and use just the FX onstage, but I need to be able to adjust things real-time while on stage. Can this be done with the Tonelab? If it also has looping it may have everything I need. Thanks! On Jun 18, 2004, at 1:16 PM, msottilaro wrote: > Hoo boy, do I feel like a jerk. > > ... but I'd feel like more of a jerk if I didn't apologies. Last > night I got my gear back together in my studio after my gig on Monday, > and I noticed a volume drop and kind of odd low level distortion that > I couldn't quite place. Sounded like it does when my Steinberger's > battery is dying, but I just put in a fresh expensive battery a week > ago... the day I bought the Vox Tonelab. > > O' oh. Can you see where this is going? I took out the battery and > low and behold, my tongue told me that it was nearly dead. What? > Huh. They usually last a lot longer that that... unless... > > I went to get it's sister still in the blister pack. Dead as well. > Never used. Still well within the expiration, but clearly not a good > battery. I ran out and got another pack of batteries (tested in the > car to make sure) and low and behold: The volume doubled and I had a > crisp clear output as I usually do. I kicked off the EQ'd I'd been > using and of course my patches sounded brittle and way bright... but > not bright in that ugly distorted way I'd been complaining about. A > half an hour of tweaking and I had a few banks of great sounding > patches... sans post EQ. > > Lesson? Lick your 9 volts before you install them I guess. The > Tonelab was putting out garbage because my guitar was sending it > garbage. I haven't had a huge amount of time to spend with it since > the battery change, but this morning it sounded glorious to my ears. > I was quick to think this was an issue with the Tonelab itself because > there were a fair amount of posts on the Tonelab list that described > the exact same thing, even to the point where the basic EQ pattern was > agreed on. Oh well, lesson learned. Check this baby out, I think > people will be generally impressed with it as an amp/stompbox modeler > and as a looper. > > On Jun 18, 2004, at 9:11 AM, Greg House wrote: >>> >> >> I think that's part of it. I have a Yamaha DG Stomp and the best I've >> ever heard >> it sound was when I was playing it through a loud PA. To my ear, it's >> just ok >> when it comes to recording, but when it was pumping in a floor >> monitor (like >> having a real amp next to me) it took on a life I'd not heard before. > > You're probably experiencing a combination of your ears ability to > hear bass better at louder volumes coupled with natural acoustic > feedback. Hard to do when you're landlord lives below you, but I know > what you mean. I can kind of get there using the Sustainiac that's > installed in my Steinberger, but it's not quite the same. > > Mark >