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On Jun 22, 2004, at 3:51 AM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > Uh--I read all these posts anyway, but . . . > How about that Ableton Live? > How steep is the learning curve for us sample and solo guys? In a way Ableton Live is easier to set up with a midi foot controller, compared to the Repeater. You don't have to do that much programming since Live has "midi learn" function to map different controller data to certain functions. You just put Live in midi learn mode, click at the graphical representation of the function (could be "play", "mute" or anything) and finally step on the foot controller button to send the midi message. That's it! Just watch out with those FCB1010 bursts of multi msg sending (like with the Repeater). > Has anyone actually sold their main hardware looper and gone with the > software approach? Not yet. No software looper I have come across does overdub recording into a loop, sound-on-sound wise (without other inconvenient drawbacks). Both the EDP and the Repeater does this very good. A partial workaround I tried was to use the plug-in Lexicon PSP42 in Ableton Live. Then you can easily tweak feedback and other parameters from a midi expression pedal, thanks to the external midi controller mapping in Live. But this is more like using a bunch of tape delay units for sound-on-sound looping. It's not the same thing as actually record in overdub mode on a EDP or Repeater. For frippertronics-like work I guess Ableton Live with the soft-lexicon should work fine. Another cool Repeater function, that is not available in Ableton Live, is to re-pitch a loop/sample/clip by external midi control. In Live you can do it by using the mouse but that's not to much help if you are busy playing instruments with your hands. I and others have been actively asking for Ableton to make external midi control available also for so called "sample or clip parameters", but as the upcoming version 4 has yet been presented I'm afraid this matter was not looked into. If midi pedals could be mapped to "sample pitch" you could reach a similar "freedom in pitch" as the Repeater offers. However with the exception that recordings have to be made before changing the pitch. There are however different plug-ins that can be used in Live for changing the pitch, but none of them sounding as good, to my ears, as simply re-pitching a Repeater track. But as we know software are instantly improving and with Live you get access to most plug-in parameters for your external midi controller. All the best Per Boysen --- http://www.boysen.se http://www.looproom.com