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Hey me again!!! actually I have just had a thought for mixing up loops and making them sound a bt differant. Im plaing a gig tonight and I think I will put a Air FX at the end of my chain set to one of the more gental modes of change, (maybe an eq or a Phase) and point it toward the audiance or put it on top of one of the audiances table, that way the end result of my sound will be altered slightly by my audiances movements, dont you just love surrendering control. Phill _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger