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RE: Generative music -- was KOAN music software (was ORGANIC programming and looping (effects))

I hear the TC Electronics FireWorX has a Curve Generator Synth., Chaos
Generator Synth, and Noise/Fractal Generator Synth.  I'd like to test
the Chaos generator, but there are no TC Elec. Dealers where I live.  I
imagine it would be fun to loop sounds made from this particular module,
or figure out some sort of feedback mechanism that applies the chaos
effect to its own output.



-----Original Message-----
From: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:18 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Generative music -- was KOAN music software (was ORGANIC
programming and looping (effects))

Back in 1997 I played with ways to create evolving music without needing
me to "do" anything once I'd set it up.  It was fun coming up with
set-ups and the music was interesting to me at the time.

I started by creating a very slowly evolving patch on a Juno synth - one
with the arpeggiator in use.  I fed that into a stereo-panning delay to
split the signal and then each side was processed by other oscillating
delays and stereo devices.  Then I would experiment with putting the
result of one chain of effects into an input on the other chain.
Needless to say it became quite soupy-sounding quite quickly! Then I'd
record a 198 second loop on my EDP and have that going too.  My
appartment was a carpet of wires. :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Nelson" <psychle62@yahoo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: KOAN music software (was ORGANIC programming and looping

> Well, it's really not at all a problem with the
> software. It's more an incompatibility on the user
> side of the interface; I was finding that I wasn't as enthused by the 
> whole concept of generative music as I thought I would be. I'd enjoyed

> some experiences earlier with various approaches to process music, so 
> I thought Koan would be a step in that direction, but I
> found what I probably enjoyed the most about what I
> had done was the  vestigial musicianlike activities
> not yet eliminated by the process. I'm certainly not
> discouraging anyone from trying Koan, but I did find
> it not to be my personal cuppa.
> -t-
> --- Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote:
> > Tim,
> >
> > > it's a little too "auto-pilot"
> > > for my tastes
> >
> > In what way?
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