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I started to suggest this as well, but remembered the issue I sometimes run into as I loop more than just guitar. Depending on where you capture your guitar signal in the looper, and what you're using for amplification, you can have a problem. If, as many guitar-loopers are, you are capturing your electric guitar signal before the poweramp and speakers, you then have a signal in your looper that *needs* that final tone shaping step to sound "good". That is, of course, an opinion... but it's one that is commonly held among guitar players. If you capture a pre-poweramp/speaker electric guitar signal in your EDP, along with a signal that should be amplified with full-frequency equipment (for instance, a keyboard or a saxophone), then you're in a dilemma re: which amp to send it to. Right now I'm using my EDPs to loop any & everything, and I'm running the output to a full range PA system. So, I actually *mic* my guitar cab and bring it into a mixer along with other signals. I've also used various rack guitar units with speaker sims to achieve the same thing. The Roland GP-100 is a pretty spectacular unit for this, IMO. I'm considering flip-flopping back to it, in fact :) Chris - I shouldn't really give $$ saving advice in this area, since I have 2 EDPs and am exploring the addition of Ableton Live to my setup. But as a basic answer, I'd suggest that you use one looper to manage guitar signals, and another to grab your finished guitar signal (if you want) plus other full-range instruments. The new dilemma will be - which for which? :) 2 EDPs synch beautifully together, just as you described, and in even more powerful ways. Read your EDP manual for some hints, but the basic idea is that they can work together re: tempo (precisely, down to the sample level), yet independently re: other features like loop length, reverse/halfspeed, etc. Together, they are a pretty amazing palette of loopage. If you can afford it, and are up for exploring it, buying another EDP can't be a bad thing. Doug Krispen Hartung wrote: > You could buy more EDPs and sync them via the Brother sync, but that > could get expensive at $700+ a pop. Why don't you run your EDP in the > aux loop of your mixer? In other words, run from one of the aux. outs > of your board to the input of the EDP, then run the output of your EDP > into one of your mixer channels (so you can control the volume > easier). Then for each instrument you have running into your board, if > you want to loop them, turn up that aux. level on that instrument's > channel. I do this all of the time when I have guest musicians play > with me and I want to loop them. > > Or you could just buy switch box of some sort that can converge > multiple instruments into one output, which you would run to your EDP > as normal. > > Kris > > ********************************* > Krispen Hartung > _http://www.krispenhartung.com_ > info@krispenhartung.com > View improvisational / real-time looping videos: > >_http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/kris-hartung/catalogue.htm#videos_ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sewell [_mailto:chris@gguitars.com_] > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:53 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Question for Echoplex experts. > > > I just purchased an Echoplex. I upgraded, or at least added from an RC > 20. What Im interested in figuring out is this. I would like to > incorporate different instruments into my performances. Bass, possibly > some percussion of some kind. However, with one Echoplex I am limited > to just one channel of the mixing board. Is adding a second echoplex > the answer? It seems the manual is telling me they can be synced up via > Midi. So conceivably one loop on one machine will tell the other how > long a cycle and other parameters as well. In other words, can I play a > loop on one machine, then switch to bass and add to the loop on the > other machine and they sync up? Will multiply also work? My mind is > spinning with possibilities here. Any info would help. > Thanks and Merry Christmas. > Chris >