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Thanks for the info gentlemen. Actually the amp dilemma is moot as Im using an acoustic guitar and putting the EDP into the effects loop of a Taylor K4. I will experiment with using the PA aux out idea. That might work in the short run. Again, thanks for the info. On Dec 24, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Doug Cox wrote: > I started to suggest this as well, but remembered the issue I > sometimes run into as I loop more than just guitar. Depending on > where you capture your guitar signal in the looper, and what you're > using for amplification, you can have a problem. > > If, as many guitar-loopers are, you are capturing your electric guitar > signal before the poweramp and speakers, you then have a signal in > your looper that *needs* that final tone shaping step to sound "good". > That is, of course, an opinion... but it's one that is commonly held > among guitar players. If you capture a pre-poweramp/speaker electric > guitar signal in your EDP, along with a signal that should be > amplified with full-frequency equipment (for instance, a keyboard or a > saxophone), then you're in a dilemma re: which amp to send it to. > > Right now I'm using my EDPs to loop any & everything, and I'm running > the output to a full range PA system. So, I actually *mic* my guitar > cab and bring it into a mixer along with other signals. I've also > used various rack guitar units with speaker sims to achieve the same > thing. The Roland GP-100 is a pretty spectacular unit for this, IMO. > I'm considering flip-flopping back to it, in fact :) > > Chris - I shouldn't really give $$ saving advice in this area, since I > have 2 EDPs and am exploring the addition of Ableton Live to my setup. > But as a basic answer, I'd suggest that you use one looper to manage > guitar signals, and another to grab your finished guitar signal (if > you want) plus other full-range instruments. The new dilemma will be > - which for which? :) > > 2 EDPs synch beautifully together, just as you described, and in even > more powerful ways. Read your EDP manual for some hints, but the > basic idea is that they can work together re: tempo (precisely, down > to the sample level), yet independently re: other features like loop > length, reverse/halfspeed, etc. Together, they are a pretty amazing > palette of loopage. > > If you can afford it, and are up for exploring it, buying another EDP > can't be a bad thing. > > Doug > > Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> You could buy more EDPs and sync them via the Brother sync, but that >> could get expensive at $700+ a pop. Why don't you run your EDP in the >> aux loop of your mixer? In other words, run from one of the aux. outs >> of your board to the input of the EDP, then run the output of your >> EDP into one of your mixer channels (so you can control the volume >> easier). Then for each instrument you have running into your board, >> if you want to loop them, turn up that aux. level on that >> instrument's channel. I do this all of the time when I have guest >> musicians play with me and I want to loop them. >> >> Or you could just buy switch box of some sort that can converge >> multiple instruments into one output, which you would run to your EDP >> as normal. >> >> Kris >> >> ********************************* >> Krispen Hartung >> _http://www.krispenhartung.com_ >> info@krispenhartung.com >> View improvisational / real-time looping videos: >> _http://www.myweb.cableone.net/chagstrom2/music/kris-hartung/ >> catalogue.htm#videos_ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Sewell [_mailto:chris@gguitars.com_] >> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 7:53 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Question for Echoplex experts. >> >> >> I just purchased an Echoplex. I upgraded, or at least added from an RC >> 20. What Im interested in figuring out is this. I would like to >> incorporate different instruments into my performances. Bass, possibly >> some percussion of some kind. However, with one Echoplex I am limited >> to just one channel of the mixing board. Is adding a second echoplex >> the answer? It seems the manual is telling me they can be synced up >> via >> Midi. So conceivably one loop on one machine will tell the other how >> long a cycle and other parameters as well. In other words, can I play >> a >> loop on one machine, then switch to bass and add to the loop on the >> other machine and they sync up? Will multiply also work? My mind is >> spinning with possibilities here. Any info would help. >> Thanks and Merry Christmas. >> Chris >> > > >