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At 9:36 AM -0800 12/29/04, Alex Stahl wrote: >On Dec 29, 2004, at 8:46 AM, Richard Zvonar wrote: > >>At 9:38 AM -0700 12/29/04, Krispen Hartung wrote: >>Too bad we can't read this without signing up as a member for the New >>York Times. Can you copy the text into an email to the group. Not that >>I can't signup, but it's sort of a pain for one article. >> >>Really? It wasn't that way previously. In fact, just last week I >>sent TImes links to some people without problems. > >It's been that way for years, afaik I guess the people I customarily send NY Times links to have just signed up for the access. It takes about a minute, doesn't cost anything, and allows you to receive a daily digest or not, depending on your preference. Obviously it was a mistake for me to post a pointer to what I thought was an amusing article about lip-syncing and the history of show business. Because of Kripen Hartung's complaint, I revisited the article and posted it to the list (a waste of bandwidth in some people's opinion, I'm sure), then I investigated the situation by first checking my e-mails to see just when I had sent NY Times links to some friends who then commented on them (I guess they must have signed up), then I went to my wife's computer and checked the link and found that indeed Hartung and you are both right about the need to sign up in order to read the articles. So I've just wasted several minutes, but I've learned two things: 1) the NY Times does indeed require that you sign up in order to read their articles, and 2) some people will always look a gift horse in the mouth. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://salamandersongs.com http://ill-wind.com