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For an interesting perspective on the Behringer/Mackie debate, have a chat with Vince Neave at AudioPro (he's the guy who does the fancy Repeater mods). He told me (I'm paraphrasing from memory, so may not be accurate) that the Behringer stuff is made at the same factory in China as the Mackies (whether labelled 'Made in China' or not), use better components then Mackie, have lower noise floor than Mackie, better grounding etc etc. All for a lower price. From my own experience, I've only ever used the FCB and patch bay thing. I once tried another rack mini-mixer thing, but found it too noisy and the power supply had too much of a hum field for rack use. Lots of friends have the little mixers and love them. Nothing beats a little research on your own. There seems to be a lot of hype on all sides of the debate. And trying the stuff out in your rig, if possible is best of all! Regards to all, Ben On 18 Jan, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Suit & Tie Guy wrote: > On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:49 AM, mungenast@earthlink.net wrote: >> in China? If I am going to buy something made in a Chinese slave >> labor facility, it is going to be something I can't get elsewhere, >> something unique, like the Alesis ModFX series, or Behringer's > > considering how much Mackie stuff is made in China now i don't feel > bad about the idea of buying Uli Behringer's stuff. > > i wish there was that mackie ad which showed everyone at the factory > standing outside waving (i remember it from a few years ago), but > edited so the text ran "Why are these Mackie employees smiling with > pink slips in hand? Because we fired a hundred americans and moved > production to china to bring you LOW LOW PRICES!!!" > > --- > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------- Ben Grossman ben@macrophone.org http://www.macrophone.org http://www.posttraditional.ca macrophone.org Oxfam-fundraising T-Shirts!!! http://www.macrophone.org/t-shirt.htm