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On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Richard Zvonar wrote: > At 9:59 AM -0800 2/15/05, Larry Cooperman wrote: > >> i spent 3 years smoking pot with most of my instructors for my mfa. > > Right. You went to CalArts? Yes Richard. > >> how anyone can stand doing a dma is beyond me except for killing time. > > My partner would probably disagree. She worked hard to get her DMA > from Stanford and she did some significant research on bowing > practices in the transitional period between the Baroque and > Classical. She has subsequently published some of this work and > otherwise passed it along to her students and her professional > colleagues. I think this is a fair example of how a serious > scholar/performer can treat the time spent and the work done in a > doctoral program. Yes, well I have to be my own person on the education thing that's why CalArts. They encourage you to take charge of your edu. I have no work to pass on about other people's work. > > I myself spent five years in a doctoral program (PhD in my case). I > worked hard, smoked no pot, made a lot of pieces and absorbed a lot of > information, and I consider it time well spent. I wrote and performed. I worked on research papers concerning the strange properties of the vibrating string and the fretting system, smoked a lot of pot and realized that i was born into the music thing so why agonize over an education. I just tried to keep it from interfering with what I already did and enjoyed the work of all of the talented people around me. I did what I did Richard and the intervention of a teacher at CalArts was to encourage growth as an artist. I am no scholar on other people's work unless there is a particular thing that they do I want to know so I get scores or these days, email and ask. Some composers will answer. > >> as you can maybe see i have very little respect for a comprehensive >> education that someone anoints you with. > > I don't think one can "anoint" you with a "comprehensive education" > though it is common practice to "bestow" a "degree" on someone who > follows orders for the prescribed period of time. However it is still > possible to earn a degree through educating one's self with the help > of a university. Yes! I am sure that your partner grabbed what she wanted. I waited until I was old to go to college and just wanted to be sanitized for teaching all to find out that literature would have been a better degree for me. My wife has this degree and I am more interested in what she is reading than what i am playing. Words are clear, music is abstract. Love the words though. > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com > > Larry Cooperman New Millennium Guitar http://www.newmillguitar.com