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Kudos to you Mr. Zvonar. My findings agree with yours. TGore44 is obviously not worth one's breath. I have to disagree Ted K. People like TGore44 who through a stone and then run, deserve the full brunt of our venom. TGore44 is a typical idiot. Hey TGore44, you're an asshole! But anyway, it got me to think of my first experiences with ambient music and other forms of abstract and minimal art. Sure, Eno's Music for Airports sounds like random piano at the bottom of a coal mine IF you're looking for a standard western musical approach. The fist time I heard it I was totally confused. "When does the song start?" It was only after I actually started to improvise over the piece did it make sense to me. I was looking for something that wasn't there and that was preventing me from seeing what WAS there. Now I listen to music that the HR woman where I work calls, "Heartmonitor music" and stuff that's even beepier and I can fully appreciate it. I can usually tell when someone is actually composing as opposed to noodling, though it's more of a gray area. I'm sure when I first started listening to abstract modern music I wasn't very good at this. Basically , with a lot of ambient musc, it's an aquired taste, but if you're open and awake you'll be happy you didn't dismiss it. Mark --- Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com> wrote: > At 1:33 PM -0700 4/24/05, TGore44 wrote: > >A lot of the music I auditioned from the site was > based on > >monotonous noodling with reverb & delay effects. > > At 2:00 PM +0000 4/25/05, loopbozo@comcast.net > wrote: > > >what site? Good question! > > For those of you who had trouble figuring out what > TGore44 > <wklemmer1> was on about: > > He/she signed up for the Loopers Delight list, > apparently downloaded > a few sound sound files that he/she found > monotonous, and then > attempted to unsubscribe from the list. > > As is often the case with those who are rather dim, > TGore44 sent the > unsubscribe request to the list itself, rather than > to the list > request address. He/she also misspelled unsubscribe, > which further > attests to the lack of attention he/she devoted to > the process. > > The fact that several of you didn't figure this out > also attests to > the minimal attention you felt TGore44 deserved, but > as compulsive > noodlers you needed to pipe up about it anyway (just > as I, as a > compulsive curmudgeon, felt it necessary to gripe > about all of you). > > Here's why I knew this about TGore44 and you all > didn't: > > 1) I sorted my e-mail by Subject traced the "Too > many beeps and > boops" thread back to the original poster. > > 2) I then sorted my e-mail by Who and found that the > person had > posted an unsubscribe request about five minutes > earlier. > > 3) I also noticed that this person had never posted > anything else to the list. > > 4) i figured out that TGore44 was a casual visitor > who had joined the > list and quickly decided it was not to his/her > liking. > > > I bring this up as an example of something I've > learned to do and > that helps me gather all sorts of information. I > call it "research." > Sometimes I also call it "thinking about something > that puzzles you > until you figure it out." Try it! It works great! > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://salamandersongs.com > http://ill-wind.com