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The thing about communities are they generally give back when you put something into them. Of course, what they give back may not be what we need or want. And if we expect something and we don't get it, then we will become disenchanted with the community. Am I saying anything original or new here? No. Is it worth remembering. Perhaps. Personally, in the past I put more effort into Loopers-Delight. When I discovered this forum in 1996 or something like that, it was a great find. It still is. I know I'm not putting in as much effort as I once did, but I feel proud of the things I accomplished in and through this forum, for myself and for others. I'm lucky for that. And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make, right? :-) David ----- Original Message ----- From: "loop.pool" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:54 AM Subject: The Live Looping Community: myth or reality > I've been reading the 'Andre appears' again thread here with interest > (because I respect the hell out of Andre and think that his contribution to > this community has been invaluable). > > Anyway, I hear that in the past Andre has not felt a sense of community or > support and that > Mark Sottilaro has not either. I feel sad that they don't and truly > hope that people support them > in the ways they should be supported (monetarily) for their >contributionsa > to the culture > but I, myself, have come to understand that the looping community is full of > musicians who have eschewed > playing in bands and frequently don't feel a part of anything. Let's >face > it, we have a lot of folks who > make a lot of music in their studios and don't take it out. I don't at >all > think this trend is at all universal > here at Loopers Delight but it most certainly exists and it's completely > okay by me. > > I have to say this, though, about the notion of community in the Live > Looping world: > > There are tons of reasons for feeling cynical about the notion of community > in most of western civilization > (and please forgive me, Sunao, Erdem and the few others who aren't from that > civilization) but my belief > is that community is ultimately going to be the only way we get ourselves > out of the mess that we are in > ecologically, politically and spiritually on this planet. > > So I have to say that I feel really proud of all the people who have really > worked hard and sacrificed a lot > to foster community in the Live Looping movement: The Bernhard Wagners, > Hans Lindauers, Peter Koniuto's, > Dan Soltzbergs', Ted Killians, Scoots Galores, etc. > > I also feel really proud of all the live loopers who continually have played > for free and travelled long distances on their own > dimes to play the Loopstocks and the Y2K4s and the Berlin LiveLooping > Festival and the Firenze Looping Festival and the Cambridge > Looping Festivals and the Swedish Looping tours and the Bass Looping Tours, > etc., etc., etc. > > We had 50 artists from 5 countries in 4 days in 2 cities last October for > Y2K4. > > Everyone came and played for free and anyone who was here had a hell of a > time, hanging out; trading secrets, jamming, drinking beer and eating. > It sure as hell felt like a community to me. > > If there are many people on this list who don't want to feel a part of that, > I understand completely. I think Andre and Mark have really cogent and > valid reasons for feeling the ways that they do about a 'community' of live > loopers but to claim it doesn't exist just really misses the mark (pardon > the pun, senor Sottilaro) > > Making a community takes a committment on the part of everyone. > The more energy one committs the greater the payback. That's the truth, > so................. > > Come play Y2K5 or come watch it and hang out and meet some great people who > do what you love to do: LOOP!!!! > > yours, sincerely , Rick Walker >