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--- Doug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote: > 2) you mentioned a leader causing there to be > accountability I didn't ever say that having a leader would cause accountability. In the USA I believe it's just the oppisite as leaders and laws encourage people to blame everything on someone else or biology. "I killed you! Sorry, I'm crazy! Not my fault!" Anyway, I just felt it would be useful to keep flame wars down and keep things on topic a bit better. Mark