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Travis Yes, I've had the bank-breaking experience of buying two EDPs from a UK retailer. The list price was something like (wait for it) $1,600 EACH ! (i.e. about £900 GBP), although I managed to get mine for the (ahem) 'knockdown' price of about $1,350. Yes, I realise this is double the price charged in the US, but I really needed these things and I calculated that the customs and shipping charges if I'd ordered these things direct from the US would have been almost as great, plus no customer support if they break. This ridiculous expense was made all the more frustrating when, whilst waiting for the order to arrive I noticed in the manual download that these units have 'made in the UK' stamped on the back !!! Does this mean EDPs are manufactured in the UK, then exported, then re-imported ??! No wonder they're expensive ! I bet they only cost about $300 to make. The world's gone crazy ! Anyway, despite the expense I can now make lovely stereo loops, which are well worth every penny of the ridiculous price tag. Hoo-ray for Matthias Grob, Kim Flint, etc ! Regards Guy Joyce aka XISTH (nothing to do with Star Wars BTW) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com