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Guys, Bass is not just bass. There are plenty of localize-able overtones produced in a good bass. The low E on a bass (E1) is a bit more than 41Hz (and has a wavelength 27 feet long) which can not be localized very well. There are at least ten harmonics you can hear however, which brings it up to 410 Hz - which is high enough to localize on (2.7 feet). A conventionally tuned four string bass G string at the 12th fret (G3) has a fundamental of 196Hz (and a wavelength of 5.7 feet) - the tenth harmonic of this is 1960 Hz with a wavelength of a bit less than 7". This is extremely easy to localize. Also when Greg Lake plays through a fuzz box (or breaks up his amp) - guess what - lots more harmonics - that is what fuzz is - gobs of harmonic (and also not so harmonic) distortion. The net result is - it is even more easy to localize. So you are quite right in thinking this is quite directional to you. Howard On May 20, 2005, at 6:53 PM, Timothy Mungenast wrote: > I'm with Richard: > There's a song on Emerson, Lake, and Palmer's first album where Greg > Lake's > fuzz bass is panned vigrously... sure seems directional to me. ;-) > ~Tim > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Richard Zvonar <zvonar@zvonar.com> >> To: Jon Southwood <jsouthwood@gmail.com>; > <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Date: 5/20/2005 2:54:09 PM >> Subject: Re: Re: surround looping >> >> At 1:14 PM -0500 5/20/05, Jon Southwood wrote: >>> Regarding the 10.2 and the 16.8.1, I have to ask a potentially >>> stupid question: >>> >>> I was always under the impression (having it read it many times) that >>> the low frequencies for which a subwoofer is designed to reproduce >>> are >>> not 'directional'. By that, I mean (in case my terminology is off >>> [likely]) that one cannot determine the direction from which the low >>> frequencies came, or rather one cannot 'locate' the source of the low >>> frequencies. >> >> I don't agree with this "truism" about bass having no directionality. >> It's simply more difficult to localize bass frequencies, but given >> that you hear bass with your whole body I think you can perceive >> where different bass sounds are coming from. >> >> In a complex system with many speakers I think it works pretty well >> to use multiple subs. This is especially true in a listening >> environment such as a club where the audience is free to circulate. >> >> Also be aware that in a specialized setup the crossover frequency >> could be tweaked to suit the combination of speakers and architecture. >> -- >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Richard Zvonar, PhD >> (818) 788-2202 >> http://www.zvonar.com >> http://salamandersongs.com >> http://ill-wind.com > > > >