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Kris - i'd love to do something on this, if you'll have me! sim www.simeonharris.co.uk >From: "Hartung, Kris" <kris.hartung@hp.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: Looking for online collaborators from LP (for >avant-garde/experimental duo project) >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:41:15 -0600 > >Hello Folks - > >Ah, what the hell...let's see if this flies or goes over like a cast >iron blimp. A boy has got to dream.... > >I'd like to test the idea of an online musical recording collaboration >and ultimately produce a low-budget CD of duo works. This would be >titled "Xperimentus: Krispen Hartung & Friends", me and a number of >other players. The genre would be avant-garde/experimental, and involve >looping of course. I would be looking for LP members whose strength is >in soloing, rather than laying down chordal soundscapes, textures, etc >(I consider percussion a solo instrument as well). Soundcapes and >foundational textures are good, but just a foundation for more complex >single note "conversations" and "dialogues". This is just my preference >as artistic director of the project. > >Composition/Performance Parameters > >The primary parameters of the project, non-exhaustive, of course: > >* All pieces will be non-metered (no time signature) and free >flowing or with just a rhythmic pulse >* All pieces will have some degree of melodic/solo work, either by >itself or over the top of textures and soundscapes (hence the request >for players whose forte is soloing) >* All pieces will have no key / they will be predominantly >non-diatonic....general tonal centers are fine, but with a significant >degree of "outside" playing, tension and release, etc - this is >essentially Free project >* Other parameters are negotiable > >Main point, I'm not shooting for pretty or lofty tunes that have >popular appeal, but more of a dark, abstract, or obscure feel. Two >examples, not meant to be a strict model are: > >Tiny Monsters Ex Nihilo: >http://www.savefile.com/filehost/projects3.php?fid=9594603&pid=830188 >Artificial Reprise: >http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=2485638 > >I may even start the CDs with these tunes....not sure. > >Collaboration Approach > >Because I can't "play with" someone online, the collaboration will have >to be reactive rather than interactive. I want to keep the approach >fairly loose and open to negotiation, but here are a few sketchy >approaches for starters: > >APPROACH A > >1. Musician A lays down his track for the entire song in such a way that >it leaves room for a second part > - Could be just a basic soundscape, textures, sound effects, etc > - Could be purely melodic work with breathing points for response from >player B (to allow call and response) >2. Musician B lays down his track over Musician A's track >3. Either Musician A or B, or both, could lay additional tracks down > >APPROACH B > >1. Musician A lays down a section of a song >2. Musician B lays down another section of the song in sequence >(directly following the first section) >3. Repeat 1. and 2. >4. Either Musician A or B, or both, could lay additional tracks down > >These are just general guiding principles...really anything goes. If we >both want to play chaotic parts that overlay each other with no planned >interaction, this is fine...radical, but fine. The basic file exchange >approach is that the track would be recorded to wav or aif format and >posted to SaveFile.com. Each contributor would use whatever software >they use to lay their track over that wav file, and then re-post (CD >quality, 16 bit, as close to 0db as possible). I'll master everything in >ProTools, add final touch enhancements, etc. > >CD Design/Credits/Financial Details > >* I'll handle all the CD mastering, artwork layout and design (any >input welcome, of course) >* I'll pay for the production of the CD using Shortrun Music, plus >pay to put it on CD Baby, get a barcode, setup, pay for digital >distribution, etc ($55 total) >* Everyone will get credit for their playing on the CD >* I will make no net profit on the CD; once we agree on a CD >price, I'll pay the cost of the CD first, and the remaining profit will >be divided up based on the percentage one plays on the CD; for instance, >if the CD costs $5 to make, sells for $15, is 80 minutes long, and your >total playing time is 10 minutes, then your profit would be 12.5% of >$10, or $1.25 (US). I'll pay everyone via PayPal. > >In short, I'm doing most of the production work and not doing this for >money, but for my own artistic gratification and desire to play with >others. I'm not in any rush to get this complete either....whatever >time it takes is fine with me, especially since I have another solo CD >coming out in September. If it takes a year, then I'm fine with that. > >I think 5 contributors, not including myself would be ideal, but it all >depends on the number and length of the songs. 5 min tunes are probably >a good standard. > >Anyone interested? Listen to the two samples above, and if this is >something you think fits your style, then send me an email along with >some samples of your music. Once I have a handful of interested >parties, I'll select those for the CD, and the rest I'll post as a >digital CD, and perhaps use for a part II CD. > >Or just tell me that I'm off my rocker. > >Kris > > >