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> > I am curious how many of us use looping as a way of playing more > > "conventional" music and how many of us are making the beeps and > > bloops? I'm interested in the transition. The change from one of those 2 "poles" to the other. Whether it's a single note that splits into non-harmonic sound. Or a melody that diverts gradually into noisemaking. Or both the above running in the other direction. Or composition that involves making shapes with sounds. andy butler