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Right On Claude, fine points all around. Though as I look at my two suitcase stuffed to the gills preparing for Europe, I too long for something smaller, and I ultimately feel that what ever a person buys, the danger in sounding like everyone else is in direct proportion to the amount of time (or lack of) the individual puts in to designing sounds to make it their own signature sound. That being said, I have a Boss VF1 that I bought to create a suitcase rig ( I bought an roland GFC-50 midi pedal to control it, small by most foot pedal standards) and though it is very powerful, I found its amp modeling to be a bit unsatisfying, it is spectacular for acoustic guitars, bass, vocals , keyboards, general sonic mangleing, etc. However, having as my bench mark the type of rig you described, below (substitute Fender and Vox amps for the Marshall) I would say it is nearly impossible. That being said, I am absolutely astounded by the sound quality and all important "feel" of the Vox tonelab Se, and though I can barely fit it length wise in my suitcase,and its a heavy beast, it has become my amp and effects rig, and it is way more flexable amd powerful than my pedal board and tube amp rig, and very easy to tweek on the fly with an intuitive knob array. These aren't cheap but they have recently dropped the price and there is a desk top version that is smaller for those who don't need much foot control or can get by with a smaller midi pedal and less control. When Andre the Giant last came to Santa Cruz he was sporting the desk top Tonelab, and any one who saw us both play that night will attest to the fact that we sound completely different. Andre sounded like Andre and I sounded like myself. I think the only danger in do-all boxes is that people use them to sound like other people when they could be tweeking them to sound like themselves. I'm currently in the proccess of eliminating all Van Halen presets from my Tone lab Ha! Ha! So in the interest of pairing down, my mackie mixer,big rack with effects, extra guitars, et al. will remain at home, and it will still seem to some folks like I have too much gear! I am personally a bit leary of relying on a lap top to do everything, but when you see Gareth Whitock play in Zurich you will see that it can be done, and done very well. see You there. Bill Walker -----Original Message----- From: Claude Voit [mailto:c.voit@vtx.ch] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:28 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: effects/synth/sequencer/loops=palm sized unit sup how long do ya think it will be untill someone puts it all together in one small package?i fear the big manufacturers dont want to make it so easy for us.they are concerned too much with profits and selling us peice by piece yet remain competitive.like the oil companies silence fuel alternatives. scary everything in one small box is a marketing illusion 1- all users will sound the same (same algorythms, same preset sounds, same philosophy of user interface,) 2-thinking you can produce the same multidimentional beautiful sound of your marshall tube amp, boutique pedals, lex reverb, edp looper etc..in one box is again a marketing illusion. 3-hoping you can tweak and adjust your incredible sound palette on the spot on a palm sized box is another dream (you will need midi interfaces, foot pedals, knob boards etc... 4- if y ever have a bug, malfunction , you are dead ----- no show small is small, cheap is alway cheap, marketing is illusion I will continue to carry my 2 4u racks, pedal boards acoustic guitars etc...., because it is MY unique sound pallette combination, MY user interface decisions, MY sound quality requirement, MY Music... Claude PS: I use a palm for sysex backups on the road :=)