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Jeff Möbious is great man not perfect yet but neither
was the EDP keep up the good work mate it will pay
off!
Peace
--- Doug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> Mobius kicks ass. Period, end of story.
>
> I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is
> "irritated" by Mobius?
> Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page
> diatribe (do I *have*
> to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of
> Kim, who the hell
> thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?!
>
> Keep looping, bro.
>
> Doug
>
> Jeff Larson wrote:
>
> >
> > Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has
> been beaten to death
> > here. Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is
> overblown. Time will
> > tell. I do however completely agree that purpose
> built hardware will
> > be better than a general purpose computer
> attempting to do the same
> > thing. No question. Unfortunately, no one makes
> hardware that
> > does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer.
> It is a sad, sad
> > existence. Pity me. Luckily I'm not "pro" :-)
> >
> > >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to
> duplicate what mobius will do
> > >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider
> the nightmare of trying
> > >> to wire up and control 16 edp's
> > >
> > > Well, you also have to consider the whole
> ethical dilemma there, and
> > > what your conscience allows.
> >
> > Ok I'll bite. Ethical dilemma? Oh I get it, did
> I "steal" your ideas?
> > Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all
> published quite nicely.
> > Everyone on this list whines about how
> manufacturers aren't listening
> > to the looping community by failing to incorporate
> some popular feature
> > into their product. If they did would that be
> stealing? Do you
> > own the concept of "multiply"?
> >
> > Some people believe I somehow copied the actual
> assembly code off the
> > EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in
> Windows. This is untrue
> > and I would in fact consider that unethical.
> Mobius was a *lot* of
> > work. I have invested well over a thousand hours
> in it. Had I chosen
> > to make my usual consulting rate during those
> hours I could have made
> > a lot of money. Now I give it away for free for
> the benefit of
> > those that can't afford to spend thousands of
> dollars on hardware.
> > I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't.
> >
> > And as I've said before, I really don't think
> Mobius is affecting the
> > sales of EDPs at all. Based on some of the
> feedback I get I've
> > probably even sold a few EDPs for you. There are
> plenty of people out
> > there that are curious about the EDP but they're
> not going to spend
> > a thousand dollars to find out. Now they can get
> a pretty good idea,
> > but for all the reasons you so eloquently point
> out they don't
> > want to deal with a laptop on stage. So they
> decide to buy an EDP.
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > I have an enormous amount of admiration for the
> EDP designers. This
> > device quite literally changed my life. It
> saddens me that Mobius
> > irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot
> understand how it
> > adversely affects you in any way. No one else was
> going to do this,
> > it is incredibly difficult and you can't make
> money selling it.
> > This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if
> there are other
> > tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that
> like it too, well
> > fine I get some karma points.
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
>
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